I think folks are confusing BATTLEFIELD armor with JOUSTING armor (and ornate show armor for parades). terrorists. So... what about horses? In case of systematic lack of oil, we'd expect a rapid conversion of military tracks to.

A quad bike is basically a robot that looks like a horse but with wheels. Same for mechanic horses, I suppose. "The likelihood of compromising the reinforced steel doors of the Nexus Bunker with stone mallets is statistically improbable, foolish organics!". @dunc123 This brings me sweet memories from when I was playing Nethack. What precise role might the fulfil? (See Sergeant Reckless ).

EDIT: Another possibility, though it REALLY stretches your worldbuilding. Because it is HEAVY.

@dunc123 In that case, then lithium or whatever for batteries could also become hard to come by.

This may allow for a rapid strike over rough terrain better than a light vehicle such as a motorcycle, dune buggy, or truck. Some considerations were given to donkeys in Afghanistan, but I do not recall how far it went.

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Apparently, despite this and heavy fire from defending forces, the cavalry normally closed with the enemy troops, who often just ran at the sight. This all allowed the cost of cavalry to remain so much lower than tanks, that they were a viable type of troops. So, in that way, cavalry could exist.
The RPGs were critical for successfully defeating vehicles, of course. Mostly accurate, but misses out modern deployment of cavalry. Even Helicopters have many problems with the extreme altitudes, with some humorous anecdotes I better not get into. That is HUGE. Remember that the Hollywood image of a line of horsemen running at each other or into a crowd of infantry is mostly romantic fantasy, since the invention of the pike, horses could be easily held off by an organized infantry unit, things like the Napoleonic era infantry square made it even easier (and the machine gun made it REALLY easy :) So you will probably never see horses of any type charging against tanks, any artillery backed position; or even against each other unless it is an impromptu skirmish. The now defunct South African Defence Force (military of the South African apartheid government pre-1994) used horses extensively in their counter-insurgency wars in neighbouring countries in the 1980s (Angola, Botswana, Namibia, etc). Against humans with machine guns, the glorious age of cavalry almost came to an end. So, understandably, people fight on horses.


Forces that will actively be deployed and will engage in an appreciable portion of armed conflicts the military is engaged in: Yes definitely-and then some. 2) The existence of highly advanced body armour means that weapons the propel chunks of lead are not particularly effective.

Mines and IED's, not to mention attack helicopters, all work together to render tanks far more vulnerable than they've ever been before. One absolutely-making-things-up alternative is the idea that we have 'wars' and 'competitions' and that cavalry are maintained and used in 'competitions' where we want to resolve a conflict without all the barbarity of a no-holds-barred war where civilians and property might be damaged. † Conditions apply.

The first line would soon remount their horses, and join in the charge.

Re: Modern Cavalry?

The Taliban war involved some more haphazard tactics, that at times could be called incompetent or even silly.

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I know people have mentioned them in nearly every answer, but bear with me for a minute. Jesus, Henry! They are often merely necessary.”.

With good luck, the cavalry mopped up the infantry with little resistance. Horse-mounted forces will be better able to avoid aerial surveillance than mechanized forces (especially if local civilians also use horses), and are quieter and more stealthy.

I doubt the solution would be to return to hay powered transport.

Allowing infantry to act as mini tanks, but insanely maneuverable. Many of these military operatives from the 80s border wars became mercenaries and consultants in the GW Bush era for security/military contractors in the Gulf, and if you were to hear their opinion on US infantry, they will dismissively chuckle at the big chunky sunburnt kids all bogged down by their heavy packs full of gadgets and nicknacks, overloaded with arms and ammunition. In the year 1943, Soviet Army underwent serious restructuring. I totally forgot about the shoes.

I think the main thing you just need is to prevent the occurrence of a war between major powers that can decisively defeat cavalry, so that the conservative military leaders can continue to remain hesitant about getting rid of their tried and true mounted forces in favor of the new, speculative military doctrine. The big limitation of vehicles is the fuel supply.

In which case you've invented a 4 legged mecha.

Cavalry formations were able to flank the infantry, gain speed, and slam into their formations with devastating consequences. Horses may work better in some of these environments, though in general helicopter deployed infantry (who then move on foot) has been the preferred solution.

Mass deployment of drones that are capable of piercing the thinner top armor of tanks, for example. More importantly, we have recently undergone a REVOLUTION in materials technology. Within the United States, you may freely copy and distribute this work, as no entity (individual or corporate) has a copyright on the body of the work. Let's assume for a moment that horseback cavalry somehow managed to survive to the modern era. Bears on fighting patrols might be more effective.

But yeah, while cavalry charges do still have their use, they're not going to be the only or even primary means of engaging with any modern enemy.

I wouldn't put too much stock in it.

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As a former combat infantryman, I can tell you that infantry today is seriously overloaded. It wasn't very effective five hundred years ago. The only rules that apply are the rules a side imposes on itself (the USA imposes all kinds of limitations on itself, for example). A new technology that prevent fast travelling/metal bullets from hitting their target. Similarly, following the first World War, we developed "rules of engagement" that prohibit things like gas attacks. Is it legal for Microsoft to install software without user approval? 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. So, modern warfare has evolved to easily destroy roads, preventing supplies and tanks. It's just too expensive to constantly transport men from one location to another by helicopter or truck. Here are some considerations.

And yes, milnet, that's what motivated me to post in the first place, if I didn't know that it had been done on a small scale a la US SOF during the invasion of Afghanistan I probably would've dismissed it. This includes lasers, which are low rate of fire, but very concentrated and high damage. Difficult geography: depending on the terrain, horses might have an advantage.

Sorry Loachman, OPI? I think Rough Riders were mostly hand waved but I didn't read much Imperial Guard source material :) Oh and there was plenty of dakka dakka in 40k, not just energy weapons.

Mountainous and deeply wooded Terrain can even give tanks a problem.

And the way that the author was moving in The Patrol, from COP to COP, they would need to carry a relatively small amount of rations for the actual animals because ideally the COPs themselves would have provisions.

The idea is the same for most answers: cavalry was abandonned for reasons, and other means has been used. There are reports of soldiers charging long distances (some sources say a mile, but this is in doubt) over hilly terrain into Taliban bunkers. Camel-side-bombs... would be terrible on morale. It would be lighweight enough to be carried by a horse, but heavy enough not to be carried by men. Even very strong men end up having to stop and grab some air much too often. In the real world, horses are NOT cheap, nor easy to take care of. 5) Life is cheap, materiel is valuable in WH:40k.

And even then the Germans started simply targetting them with artillery.


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